I need help guys....

[Chandler Scott]

Who knew feedback had an expiration date?

I think there's been a lot of harsh, yet solid and truthful advice throughout this thread. Whether you decide to take in that feedback or take offense to it and be abrasive and defensive about it, it's totally up to you.

[thelion]

Hey I accepted everyone's advice and when I thanked you guys for it, I thought that'd be it.

I am appreciative. I was talking about feedback for my roleplays, not my complaints and BS.

Then Vinny just shows up, well after the party is over, and cuts my ass down. Why the fuck cut me down when you guys have all done such a wonderful job of that by yourselves?

I try so hard and try to do more than the average handler, hoping the fed head might see something in me and give me a shot. I write my own matches in a way that I really put over a solid struggle as well as put over the opponent. In my mind, when I'm writing a match with my character, it's my job to make the other guy look good.

That should count for something in itself, but I see that it doesn't. Most feds I've been in, effort is part of the equation to. The places I've worked, you don't get by if all you do is cut a neat promo and strat every once in awhile. You bust ass, you get rewarded for it. Here, I've busted ass and came up empty.

I'm not saying I wrote the best promos or told any stories. I focused on what was important about professional wrestling in the first place - The matches themselves.

Most wrestlers don't share their personal lives until very late in their career, after attaining a big chunk of success, but here in FGA, that seems more the modus operandi. I like leaving some mystery to the character. I like having people guess what's going on in his head or in his life and possibly being wrong.

I also like to treat kayfabe like it's a real thing, just like in real professional wrestling. That's why it's such a big deal when I have a character do a shoot, breaking said kayfabe every now and then.

If I write a promo for a character, it's a promo. It's not them telling their life story or crying about some bullshit going on in their life. It's them, hyping or bashing their opponent, talking about the match, and maybe saying some good or bad things about the place they are working in and not always in that order.

So you know what? I'm going to delete that post in the character development section. I'm going to move forward, and I'm going to keep doing what I do because that's what I fucking do. You guys can keep on with the "Pre-story" to the Promo all you want, but in my eyes, that inter-personal bullshit has no place in wrestling. Period.

[Chris Q]

Mar 1, 2013 1:08:41 GMT -5 Vinny said:

I'm a real life Chris Q.

Keep dreaming...

[Chandler Scott]

Sigh...

You complain that no one gives you feedback. Then when you do get feedback, you take offense to it. You say you're over it, only to then ramble on and on again.

Was Vinny harsh on his feedback? Of course he was. But that's what he does. He tells it like it is. And, in turn, he expects the same feedback to be given to himself instead of being patted on the back and drooled over all the time.

I was originally going to say that no one has probably approached you because they have no idea what you want to do from one moment to the next. In your previously CD peice, you lost your daughter. I was going to make a point about how in your next roleplay, it wouldn't shock me to see her alive. Well surprise, the CD was deleted and no one can mention any of that material and that you "don't give a damn if it pisses you off". Smooth

Dec 24, 2012 9:55:18 GMT -5 @thelion said:

No offense, but I'm tired of being a kiss of death to feds, so after the start of the new year, Corella's going to be around... alot. I also want to make it hard for UWL to ignore him after the International Title controversy I threw together, as well as prove to people I'm not a whiny bitch or an always angry handler.

Also smooth.

Chris said it best: "Rob, you are one intense bastard. It's trippy to come on here after a few hours and see how wild you get with posting."

Like a said a couple of posts earlier. This is a roleplay fed. Not an angle fed. Not a match writing fed. And if you're getting bent out of shape because you try your hardest yet still wind up losing not just here, but elsewhere as well? Then that sounds more like a personal problem than anything that's wrong with FGA, UWL or anywhere else.

My Preston character lost for months straight last year. My Chandler character hasn't won a big match since November. Kayfabe wise, PHE was godawful for The Harvard Connection. But I never pissed and moaned about it because a) I'm clever enough to write around it and b) above all else, it's a game where I'm pretending to be a fake wrestler in a fake sport. Your solution to the problem is/was changing up your character repeatedly on the fly.

Rob, no one here hates or even dislikes you. But damn, you've been rubbing people the wrong way since the get go and it's only increased, whether it was your FUCK KIDD and FUCK UWL rant fresh off of UWL Gate (anyone who read up on the situation knows that wasn't strictly in character. Hell, you blatantly admitted to breaking kayfabe two posts above this), you and Chris in a Chris Q Feedback, you and me in the Chat Box, and now this thread.

[jay]

If I was going to get pissed and bitched out about losses then I should've gone on for the last few weeks, besides my win against Vinny and Jack Owyns, I havent won a single big match in the last couple of months. I lost my TWO FGA title shots and then I lost my International title to Gunner Hughes yet I'm not bitching. That's not me. At least not me anymore. I used to be that guy when I was starting but I've realized, it takes the fun out of the game. As I've said, my purpose now is to tell storylines and angles.

I'm not saying that having the urge to win is bad, it's just that for me, taking this seriously doesnt make any sense. I've had stress about winning in this game before and it affected my life but then I realized I look like a fucking moron for being that stress over a game that aside from improving how I put together my ideas and having friends outside my reallife friends, it wouldnt affect us in the real world.

[Deleted]

fuckwhat yall say. I know for sure FGA is real.... You just have to believe.

[Deleted]

*sigh* It's like we're dealing with a fucking child.

[thelion]

No, you're dealing with a guy who is banging his head against the wall trying to come up with some sort of solution to his problem. I'm frustrated, angry, and was all ready to give up this whole discussion, but a couple people decide to chime in after the fact and grind me just a little bit more.

I'm a huge E-Wrestling mark. I'm starting to like it better than most of the real shit out there because here, anything is possible and the sky is the limit.

I look at the characters here and I really dig them. I enjoy all the material you guys put out, the stuff you write, all that.

I expected to be in a storyline weeks ago, but nothing's panned out. That's why all the throwing shit on the wall to see if it sticks went down in the first place. I was trying to generate something, but nobody was biting.

And guys, I know you've seen plenty of evidence, but I do have problems. As I said in the previous post, I'm prone to mood swings and episodes of extreme depression. I'm never suicidal or anything like that, but I just get these moments where I've got black clouds hanging over my head and everything just fucking sucks.

I'm the kind of guy that doesn't want to medicate. I've tried hard to stay away from that shit and keep myself in check for years. I don't want to be one of those guys that can't cope with his problems and leans on pills like a crutch. I loathe the thought of being dependent on anything but myself to get through my day.

It doesn't excuse my words or actions here, but I hope you guys will forgive me. I'll try to keep my yap shut for awhile now and hopefully this will blow down.

[shaunsindelman]

FYI...

w11.zetaboards.com/UWL_Community/topic/8534560/1/

[FGA Office]

Yeah, I saw that. I gave Kevin the heads up last night before I even did anything.

Rob brought it onto himself

[Deleted]

He did bring it onto himself. Everyone was more than patient with the guy. Everyone tried to help him out but he just didn't want it. Fuck it. It's over with and done now. The show goes on, as they say.